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Third of our series of debates. Picture made by *Anarres.

The keywords:
Free Software. Open Source. The GNU Manifesto. Peer-to-Peer networks. Napster. eMule. RIAA. MPAA. Piracy. Sharing. Gift economy. Intellectual property. Copyright. Copyleft.

The questions:
Has the Internet developed as an anarcho-communist socioeconomic model? What should we do regarding this? Should socialists use Free Software only (or mostly)? Should we encourage peer-to-peer sharing ("piracy")? Is intellectual property a legitimate right? What will happen now that the big business is entering this game? What can we do about software patents?

Reference texts (read through them):
- Cyber-Communism: How the americans are superseding capitalism in cyberspace.
- The GNU Philosophy.
- The Free Software Foundation.
- The Open Source Initiative.
- The Xhiph.org About page.
- Copyleft explained to the kids.

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:iconatobgraphics:
How uncanny, i vectored the same machine the other day lol > [link]

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:iconanarres:
Yep. Except that my crappy vectorization took me two seconds with Inkscape's automatic bitmap to vector conversion. :D It's not as clean as yours, but it does the job.

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:iconredout:
It looks good when its not clean it looks like that sketcy graffiti style ive been seeing latley

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Your "consumer power" doesn't work when billions are spent to change what you think is right.
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Yes it did. The internet's for everyone, theres no centeralization or government and most of the time one person is as good as the next, anyone can get or see anything, the censorship and propaganda on tv and movies is impossible on the internet. It cant be completley monitored and people can organize better than ever.

Copyright is just another thing made for good reasons that was perverted by buisinesses, an artist's work is protected from any idiot who wants to steal it but the same law lets AOL own the "happy birthday" song, so it's technically illegal to sing withoug paying. Socialists should use whatever gets the job dont, free or not, and if they have a problem affording it, get it for free. File sharing is the same as letting a friend listen to your new cd, both piss off the copyright-obsessed but file sharing on a big scale, it lets anyone use super expensive tools and take money away from the greedy music labels that already screw over their bands. Its not just ok, its something we need.

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Your "consumer power" doesn't work when billions are spent to change what you think is right.
:iconsrvndank:
Fuck the RIAA and the MPAA!! I WANT FREE SHIT!! If I don't get it free, I'm not going to pay for it. Art should be shared.

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You can bomb the world into pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace.

"Who can I exploit today?" said the Capitalist.
:iconanarres:
The internet's for everyone, theres no centeralization or government

You may be surprised to know that the ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, the entity which decides over which domains names should exist, and who should manage them, and how domain name resolution is managed) is a private organization, which has some degree of government control, but is also parterned by large corporations and business. Also, most of the organisms that govern the assignation of domain names are private enterprises.

At the very best, it is merely a centralized system. At worse, it is a centralized system which we cannot control.

Another aspect of the same issue: you cannot connect to the Net without an ISP (Internet Service Provider), which are private entities. Those who cannot pay them, cannot access the Net. And even those who can pay are subject to whatever conditions the ISP may impose (such as monitoring their information, as the USA government routinely does; the previous spanish government, which belonged to the far right, developed a law called LSSI which forced ISPs to hand to the authorities data on their users).

So, in the end, access to the Internet is not that democratic, is it?

I was, however, pointing more towards the inner socio-economic self-organization of the net. Beyond the technical infraestructure, once we enter the realm of pure bits and bauds, ¿how do users organize themselves? ¿Is there an economy? ¿How does it work? ¿How are the Big Business moving through it? ¿how has the Internet changed physical economy?

Socialists should use whatever gets the job dont, free or not, and if they have a problem affording it, get it for free.

So, ¿the end justifies the means?

[ I'm just poking at you you :), but I really want people to develop on these subjects. I will post my view on them once there has been some debate. ]

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:iconanarres:
Oh, and...

...an artist's work is protected from any idiot who wants to steal it...

¿Should an artist want to protect his work at all?

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I WANT FREE SHIT!! If I don't get it free, I'm not going to pay for it.

The capitalist's reply to this statement would be: "Fine. If you don't want to pay for it, don't. It's your choice not to get something you want". They might also be tempted to say something like "If art is shared and nobody pays for it, how will musicicans, painters, writers, et all live?".

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I WANT FREE SHIT!! If I don't get it free, I'm not going to pay for it.

The capitalist's reply to this statement would be: "Fine. If you don't want to pay for it, don't. It's your choice not to get something you want". They might also be tempted to say something like "If art is shared and nobody pays for it, how will musicicans, painters, writers, et all live?".

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