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<sub>vi·o·lence
n.

1. Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence.
2. The act or an instance of violent action or behavior.
3. Intensity or severity, as in natural phenomena; untamed force: the violence of a tornado.
4. Abusive or unjust exercise of power.
5. Abuse or injury to meaning, content, or intent: do violence to a text.
6. Vehemence of feeling or expression; fervor.

violence

n 1: an act of aggression (as one against a person who resists); "he may accomplish by craft in the long run what he cannot do by force and violence in the short one" [syn: force] 2: the property of being wild or turbulent; "the storm's violence" [syn: ferocity, fierceness, furiousness, fury, vehemence, wildness] 3: a turbulent state resulting in injuries and destruction etc.

Main Entry: violence
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: attack
Synonyms: abandon, acuteness, assault, attack, bestiality, bloodshed, blowup, brutality, brute force, clash, coercion, compulsion, confusion, constraint, cruelty, destructiveness, disorder, disturbance, duress, ferocity, fervor, fierceness, fighting, flap, foul play, frenzy, fury, fuss, harshness, murderousness, onslaught, passion, power, raging, rampage, roughness, ruckus, rumble, savagery, severity, sharpness, storm, storminess, struggle, terrorism, tumult, turbulence, uproar, vehemence, wildness
Antonyms: passivity, peace, peacefulness
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: anger
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: upset
Synonyms: acrimony, animosity, annoyance, antagonism, blood of a bitch, blow up, cat fit, chagrin, choler, conniption, dander, disapprobation, displeasure, distemper, enmity, exasperation, fury, gall, hatred, huff, ill humor, ill temper, impatience, indignation, infuriation, irascibility, ire, irritability, irritation, mad, miff, outrage, passion, peevishness, pet, petulance, pique, rage, rankling, resentment, slow burn, sore, stew, storm, tantrum, temper, tiff, umbrage, vexation, violence
Antonyms: affection, calm, forbearance, glee, goodwill
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: battery
Part of Speech: noun 2
Definition: abuse
Synonyms: assault, attack, beating, mayhem, mugging, onslaught, thumping, violence
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: brunt
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: bad result
Synonyms: burden, force, impact, pressure, shock, strain, stress, tension, thrust, violence
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: brutality
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: meanness
Synonyms: atrocity, barbarism, barbarity, bloodthirstiness, brutishness, choke hold, cruelty, ferocity, fierceness, grossness, inhumanity, ruthlessness, sadism, savageness, savagery, unfeelingness, viciousness, violence
Antonyms: caring, gentility, humaneness, kindness
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: coercion
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: compulsion
Synonyms: browbeating, bullying, constraint, duress, force, intimidation, menace, menacing, persuasion, pressure, restraint, threat, threatening, violence
Antonyms: free will, self-motivation, volition
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: constraint
Part of Speech: noun 1
Definition: force
Synonyms: coercion, compulsion, driving, duress, force, goad, hang-up, impelling, impulsion, jones, monkey, motive, necessity, no-no, pressure, repression, spring, spur, suppression, violence
Antonyms: free will
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: disturbance
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: upset
Synonyms: agitation, annoyance, big scene, bother, brawl, clamor, confusion, convulsion, derangement, disarrangement, disorder, disruption, distraction, eruption, explosion, ferment, fisticuffs, flap, fracas, fray, fuss, hindrance, hubbub, insurrection, interruption, intrusion, molestation, perturbation, quake, quarrel, racket, rampage, restlessness, riot, ruckus, rumble, shock, spasm, stink, stir, storm, to-do, tremor, tumult, turmoil, upheaval, uprising, uproar, violence
Antonyms: stillness
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: duress
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: hardship
Synonyms: bondage, captivity, coercion, compulsion, confinement, constraint, control, detention, discipline, force, imprisonment, incarceration, pressure, restraint, threat, violence
Antonyms: free will
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: encounter
Part of Speech: noun 2
Definition: fight
Synonyms: action, argument, battle, brush, clash, collision, combat, conflict, contention, contest, dispute, engagement, flap, fray, gin, hassle, quarrel, rumpus, run-in, scrap, set-to, skirmish, velitation, violence
Antonyms: retreat, withdrawal
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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I personally believe to state that violence should not take place is a false statement and a lie to oneself. If you are looking for answers look to the natural world.
I beleive unnecessary violence should be avoided, but violence exists therefore it has a purpose. For nothing exists without purpose. Everything is in balance, no violence would breed a softness a weakness. It's like without resistnace things would not adapt and grow. It's this war at the heart of all things that drive life forward.

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_{[ All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a philosopher. ]}

mmm, for me (being a pacifist), I believe that pretty much all violence can be avoided...and most of the time should be; there's always an alternative solution right? I know that =The-Philosophy's dictionary definition says that violence is physical, but is there mental violence? Because if there is, then *pow* there goes my argument....

Pookie x

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Violence is when you hurt someone. Its not necessary for education, kids dont need a whip whenever they get an answer wrong. Parently will probably have to use violence to teach their kids that they can't get away with, Its obvious that slapping your kid for swearing at you won't turn him into a cold blooded killer but alot of people don't see that, then they think of parents punishing their children, they think of all the child beating parents in movies and sometimes in news. Violence is always necessary in life as long as people can be angry. Violence is obviously necessary for a revolution, theres no such thing as a non-violent revolution. There's never been a blood-less revolution. Overthrowing a government would always cost some lives. Violence is just part of us, when we think the ends justify the means we'll use violence. Violence can't ever end, not while we have free-will.

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Your "consumer power" doesn't work when billions are spent to change what you think is right.

Depends really on how you think violance exists in everyday life. Is it killing a bug that runs on the floor, or hitting someone in the face, or killing him, or telling him that you'll hit him if he doesn't do what you want?

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Soyez réalistes, demandez l'impossible.

Yes, most violance is aviodable, but, as you're a socialist, you know that revolutionary attempts were ofter greeted by military action by the ruling class. So should we act like Gandhi and let our movement be crushed? That's serving the bourgeoisie, not the workers, and with them humanity itself. It's the serving of ethics and morals. If you take a look at how many people are killed everyday, indirectly, because of the system we live in, I think that it's better to have some people killed to deliver a change (a violent revolution) than to have people dying all the time because of no change.

I think Marx said it best, "peacefully if we can, violently if we must". But we should be against all violance that doesn't serve the delivering of power into the worker's hands (we can call it non-revolutionary violance).

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Soyez réalistes, demandez l'impossible.

Violence is violence.
Labelled by the human tongue.
Deemed wrong by the human mind.

Do you hear the lioness cry and winge when the new lion kills her cubs?

Everything exists for it purpose, if it had no purpose it would not exist.
If your apple rot's do you uf and puff? why get mad at the rot, rot is doing what rot is meant to do. then what should you be annoyed at? oneself, you allowed the conditions to emerge for rot to exist.

we reap what we sow.
follow?

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_{[ All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusion is called a philosopher. ]}

In my view, violence is the last resort, not the first...so if it can be avoided, then it should. Unless of course inaction, on a violent front, leads to death or suffering that could have been deterred...

wow, I've just realised how vague I sound...
Hockai, if by using violence (after non-violent methods have failed) you can stop more violence from occuring, then, only then, in my eyes is that really acceptable...

si?

Pookie x

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Get busy living, or get busy dying
Make trade Fair
Aid Freedom
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Banksy

violence is allright with me if it is used as defence or as to punish someone who something really bad.
sometimes we need to violent in order to keep yourself at yourself at your goal and and to smack some sense in someone or it will consume you, and will get worse.

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Blind love is as Blind hate
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